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Title: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 05, 2015, 12:25:20 AM
Part 1: Chopper's Bass Guitar Make-Over (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2m9EYqTDW8#)

Dear :jesus:, please let there be some chrome under all that crusty crime when I try to buff it off later.  :crazy:

I have a week to fiddle and clean while the new 38mm bone nut makes it's way here from China.

Below is the Dave bloke I learns stuffs from - he's a good one at da bass fixin stuff  :book1:

How To Setup Your Bass Guitar Again The Movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdhCeD9R5qM#ws)

 :band


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 05, 2015, 10:44:44 AM
I guess I better drag out my amplifier then.

I've since found out its an ex cinema amp 120 watts mono, with 2 inputs, limiting and tone controls. It runs 6! EL36 / 6CM5s in push pull.

I have to find a suitable 12 or 15 inch speaker for her too, oh well more hunting around in the shed time.  :tears

Its a Philips EV44?? amp.

That bass has sat in the shed for over 30 years  :crazy:

 :tears
 :wood: :smoking:



Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 05, 2015, 11:50:19 AM
White ants made a nest in my Acer laptop yesterday, but not your bass after 30 years  :crazy:

Never heard of a Philips EV44. Nothing much on Google neither.  :book1:

3 string bass sounded OK though my Sony home stereo I use for guitar, but that's a bit hard to go portable with.

Even your transistor amp would work well enough I guess.

It's not like we have a band called 'The CB Dickheads' or sumthin out on tour with 'no gig' Dimmock  :band

What speaker is in the transistor amp? Might be able to make a heller beast out of the two?

Tip shops are gay now days, so not sure where to source a second hand speaker from.

Might take a screw driver down to the arts center and see if there's any nice ones in the back row of the auditorium.  :glasses9:

 :chicken:



Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 05, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
After scratching around in the back shed, I found a 10 inch subwoofer and a Roland 15 inch 300 watt driver as well.

I have 2 transistor guitar amps one is a gay little practice amp from the 1960s , the other a home made one, ex a mates band from the 1970s and 80s. I think its either 60 or 120 watts.

I dragged it out and I'm going to pop the lid and see what's in there.

Its just the amp though no speakers.

I'm hoping to drag bertha the MENS amp out later on and see what's what in there.

6 big output bottles should make LOTS of noise.

Now I have to learn to play, I only got one lesson in the late 1970s

  :tears

 :grandpa: :wood:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 05, 2015, 02:26:26 PM
12 Bar Blues Bass by Scott Whitley - Lesson 1 - 12 Bar Overview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxsRbuA84Gc#ws)

If this monkey can do it, anyone can.

12 bar is a piece of cake - we'll walk ya through it no wukers  :wood:

 :smoking:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 05, 2015, 05:39:46 PM
Dug 2 of my 3 amps out.

The Philips one is indeed a 120 watter, Bulldog would cream his jeans.

It needs restoration though its had a hard hard life long before I got it, its a project for some rainy days.

Its an ex cinema type amp with 2 inputs and its been grafted rather crudely into an old guitar amp box that needs a 12 inch speaker.

The little one is a vintage Coronet amp, transistor but old germanium ones, it was working but got very noisy over time until all you could hear was shhhhhhhhhhhh.

Its got "Benowa High School Electronics Club" engraved on it  :tears

A can 'o freezer spray found the dud transistor and another old one from the junk box and she goes, it even has my really long guitar lead in it.

Buggered now so giving up for a day or 3.

 :wood: :grandpa: :smoking:



Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 05, 2015, 07:25:56 PM
Buggered now so giving up for a day or 3.

You must be rooted.

I seen where those amps were under that avalanche of stuff you have in the skunkworks.

Would have been easier to pull a frozen Mammoth out of bung hole Bundy's ice butt.

Might have to get a D9 over and clear a path to the buried beer fridge down back near the buried working pinny machine.

Ow at least some of ye buried stuff is seeing the light of day again   :occasion18:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 06, 2015, 12:48:12 PM
Found out big Philips valve amp is a model EV4437.

http://www.guitargear.net.au/discussion/index.php?topic=37059.0 (http://www.guitargear.net.au/discussion/index.php?topic=37059.0)

http://www.guitargear.net.au/discussion/index.php?topic=38519.0 (http://www.guitargear.net.au/discussion/index.php?topic=38519.0)

mmm beefy.

 :smoking: :wood:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 06, 2015, 01:27:45 PM
I hope your taking progress photos for a EV4437 project page  :book1:

I'd throw a sheet over your background stuff so Bung hole doesn't see what your dieloads looks like.

 :smoking:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 06, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
Shhh, thems me secrets super mudulaters dieloads what gives ya extra powers and all bands in any radio!

Only costed fiddy bux on fleabays.

 :tears :smoking: :wood:

200 volts at 300 amps, CB maths tells me that my radio with one of these in it will do 50,000 watts!  :crazy:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79515856/diode.jpg)


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 06, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
(http://www.goldcoastcb.com/images/bass_guitar_update_060515.jpg)

Good news, all the important screws and truss rod work  :icon_cheers:

Lotta rubbing and tugging today.

Darn chrome fell off the pick-ups - might go the brass look.

Head stock was begging for a face lift. A "Chopper" decal with clear stuff over top would look good?

Gotta find out if Bung Hole Badfellow can rub and polish as well.


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 06, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
Beautiful!

Just go with what ever takes ya fancy, I have no emotional attachment to that guitar.

Its just a dunger to learn on.

Kyrandia worries that youll spend all yer cash on my old dunger guitar.

 :smoking: :grandpa: :wood:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 06, 2015, 04:53:25 PM
I cleared out almost all the crud between the all important piss fridge and pinball machines, just have a bit more to do.

Then Ill get the fridge up and running and chuck some tins in it and we will have to have a pinball tournament.

Get yer flippin fingers flexed.

 :grandpa: :wood: :tears



Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 06, 2015, 07:08:20 PM
What, you been cleaning up? Hell freeze over?  :crazy:

LOL, Kyrandia, only $1.13 so far.

Only other thing I need is a can of clear lacquer.

Everything else is getting a rub and tug  davidick

Project budget is $5, so it should be jiggy  :smoking:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 06, 2015, 07:46:04 PM
KISS " I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU" Bass Play along (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IadVLUqULk8#ws)

Motivational food for the Bass Master  :wood: ...

Second lesson piss up (first is 12 bar) will be this Kiss bass line. (that's pretty much 12 bar anyway)

Rather straight forward - he just rocks back and forth flicks his thumb dials between two notes frequencies in a few different spots.

 :rocking:





Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 06, 2015, 08:45:16 PM
Oh yeah, that's the stuff!

Always wanted to learn to play the bass line in this song.

The The (Matt Johnson) : 'The Sinking Feeling' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6mzm7Eg3hE#)

I thought it would be mad busy playing it, but I watched the bass player closely when I saw The The in concert at Festival Hall years ago and like most bass players he was just cruising along.

 :tears :smoking: :wood:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 07, 2015, 03:56:10 PM
Cool song. I like music like that, that moves around through the keys.

I can relate to the lyrics as well.

I cant believe I've never heard of them. Shit, their old as well  :grandpa:

Yes the bass sounds easier than the rest of the composition.

But this is an advanced course pissed session.
You have to study be really pissed before taking this one on.

The key is knowing the tune and beat in your head really well first.

I'm ass about face with this one, as I haven't heard it enough yet to sink in.

 :chicken:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 07, 2015, 06:37:37 PM
Yes old Matt there has some good lyrics for sure, youll have to hear the rest of the albums I have eh?

Found yet another amplifier, this ones a valve 30 watt one says "National" on the front, needs a little bit 'o fiddling to run right.

Someones been jiggery pokering around in it, and no it wasn't me  :crazy:

For those into valves, this one has 3 12AX7s in it and 2 50C5s push pull for the output.

Beautiful!

 :linux :tears :grandpa: :wood:

I reckon youd like this The The song as well, I know I do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azysyU_Rr1g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azysyU_Rr1g)



Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 07, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Cool yeah make us a copy and I'll swap you all of 1994 Hey Hey It's Saturday episodes  :smoking:

Another value amp? So you're the one that's been hiding them all  :toothy12:

Just wait until Bull Dog hears about this  :granny:

 :ufo:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on May 18, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
More progress on the amp Im going to use.

I've decided to convert the 30 Watt National valve PA amp into my bass amp.

I've pulled out the girls blouse 50C5 output valves which I discovered were only good for 2.3 watts each at 10% distortion!

I've installed 2 6V6GTs in push pull, bulldog would know those bottles, they were in everything at one stage.

I dragged out my trusty AVO CT160 valve tester and sorted a good matched pair.

I've installed the new sockets and wired them in, I just have to sort out some power supply issues.

It should be good for 30 watts output again with a LOT less than %10 distortion!

Ill update more when I get to do more to her.

Oh and I found a nice old Realistic branded 3 way loudspeaker to use until I make a proper men's bass bin  :tears

At least the Realistic speaker box has a 10 inch woofer in it anyway.

 :wood: :smoking: :grandpa:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on May 18, 2015, 10:02:58 PM
(http://www.goldcoastcb.com/images/180515_choopers_bass_update.jpg)

Still waiting for the nut.

In the mean time - Image is deliberately small to hide the rub and tug shine until hand over day.  :chicken:

30 watts and 10 inches will be heaps for a practice amp.

Here's what a 20 watt head can do into a cabinet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzDohmkXeJs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzDohmkXeJs)


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on June 27, 2015, 03:23:44 PM
Check this out!

on E-Bay a Philips Amp similar to mine, except mine has 6 bottles in push pull not 4 like this one.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/252004464875?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/252004464875?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

 :grandpa: :wood:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on June 27, 2015, 05:36:08 PM
$70 with no bids and one day to go - price might be a bit high for that one  :phone:

Folks must be waiting for your six bottle job  :smoking:

Fark, been hung over all day, and still have a bad ache.

Back to bed for a while  :chicken:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on June 30, 2015, 05:09:23 PM
Fark, that amp sold for $106.50 after 10 bids  :crazy:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on August 29, 2015, 04:51:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72eaPS7jXgc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72eaPS7jXgc)

Finished at last and handed back a few nights ago.

Huumm, it looks better than it plays still, as the neck isnt real good, but it was fun fiddling with it.

I forget to get a video of it being played. Next time  :icon_cyclops_ani:

 :band


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on August 29, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
I suspect there was a fair bit of rubbing and tugging required there  :tears

Its still working and even stays in tune, well according to my tuning doodad thing.

 :smoking: :wood:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on August 29, 2015, 07:52:08 PM
Bert's still in tune?  :thumbsup:

Those Holden engine mounts make nice nuts  :smoking:

(http://www.goldcoastcb.com/images/peavy_01.jpg)

Dom's old Peavy 6 string needed some nuts..

(http://www.goldcoastcb.com/images/peavy_02.jpg)

Geez, the fumes from the polyurethane has only just settled after two week.

(http://www.goldcoastcb.com/images/peavy_05.jpg)

Make-over video coming soon.

 :chicken:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on August 29, 2015, 09:18:42 PM
Back on topic - just found a short ruff riff track I did on Bert the bass. (I forgot about cause I musta been sober)

http://www.goldcoastcb.com/media/cooter_on_choppers_bass_12_bar.mp3 (http://www.goldcoastcb.com/media/cooter_on_choppers_bass_12_bar.mp3)

Yes I know, outer tune E and sloppy cOOter  :confused2:

Sorry Jack (the rhythm arranger), these drums are real from a dude on wikiloops.com  called 'Drumshticks'


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on August 30, 2015, 11:22:28 AM
That sounded pretty good to me.

 :grandpa: :wood:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on August 30, 2015, 01:43:37 PM
Bass volume was louder on purpose so as to hear Bert's vintage tone.

Move over Gene Simmons, it's Bertie time  :whip2:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on August 30, 2015, 02:14:48 PM
Got a copy of this

http://www.alfred-music.co.uk/shop/cds-dvds-software/software/alfreds-play-beginning-electric-bass.html (http://www.alfred-music.co.uk/shop/cds-dvds-software/software/alfreds-play-beginning-electric-bass.html)

from the library, so far its rather good.

 :grandpa: :wood:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on August 30, 2015, 02:43:12 PM
Good old library, huh?  :book1:

 :icon_thumright:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on August 30, 2015, 04:13:30 PM
Yep, they had other titles as well. You want me to look for a Lead Guitar one?

 :wood: :grandpa:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: cOOter on August 30, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
 :tears
Lead guitar?

 :sign10: nah, I'm beyond help..
www.wikiloops.com/backingtrack-jam-20637.php (http://www.wikiloops.com/backingtrack-jam-20637.php)

The library have any self loving videos? - me  :chicken: is slowing down.

Cough cough, those bass discs copyable, err, back-up-able?  :smoking:


Title: Re: PROJECT: Chopper's Crusty Bass Guitar Make-Over
Post by: Thunderbird on August 30, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Hey those songs on that site sound pretty good to me.

I have backed up the library's disks in case grubby wanna be musos grub them up and stuff them.  :thumbsup:

Prompts me to crack out my old MIDI gear and have a stuff about.  :confused2:

 :grandpa: :wood: